How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

I am like a fish out of water,

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

I just cannot wake up early, even if I sleep on time. What should I do?

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

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We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

Who has experienced what they called a happy accident (bestiality)?

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

What’s the weirdest phone call you have ever received?

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Have you experimented with bestiality?

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

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ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

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Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

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ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

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ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

What measures do celebrities take to protect their images from being used for commercial purposes without permission? How much does this typically cost them?

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

Why do the majority of feminists hate men (not all feminists)?

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

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ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

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That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

CONCLUSION:

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

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Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

then who is there to know what happens without?

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

Sain (a barber)

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

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We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

NOW…

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

Kabir (a weaver)

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

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Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

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There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

Now here in this verse

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.